Well, now that Obama has selected one of the most ardent members of the "politics as usual", members of congress, as his running mate,(Joe Biden) he sure has put the lie to his "change you can believe in" slogan. I can not believe that a lot of our fellow Americans were taken in by that line of bull crap from the start however I realize that a lot of younger, more naive first time voters were swayed by his silver tongue, (there is a quote from the bible about being swayed by this type of speaker, however I can not remember it, perhaps some one will tell me what it is.) So it all boils down to this "the same old democratic party con game but just different con artists." signed Zarc